A Student’s Questions

Negotiation is Over - Florida

A student wrote to NIO to express his/her concerns about our campaign geared toward dissuading students from considering entering fields that involve animal torture. In the following exchange, Lisa Grossman responds and dispels several misconceptions:

Student

“Why not target the institution? Thats what I dont understand about your campaign… I know people just trying to get degrees in science. These students usually are poor and just trying to get a degree. Why not go to the level where they actually make decisions? These kids are just trying to get a degree, they don’t choose the cirrriculum in their given major. I’m a ________ student and you have made me fear for my friends’ safety.. what do you plan to do with this info?”

Lisa

It’s a good question you ask- I wish more people would do the same. First of all you’re correct to fear for your friends. We’re 3000 strong globally at Negotiation Is Over- some more angry than others. I have attached some pics because it’s likely you don’t understand what’s happening and what’s about to happen. We do what’s right and we are showing students the truth for the first time.

First of all the animal holocaust is not an exaggeration. Just today the current number of animals killed for research has risen to 3.7 million PER YEAR. There’s never a year where the numbers go down. It’s not just mice in mazes anymore Pat, look at the pics- this is what’s being done to animals hourly. And the Universities are responsible for huge amounts of torture, fear and mutilation. We are moved by this horror as many have been in the last 2 centuries. BUT nothing has changed and more animals suffer and get thrown in the college incinerators. We are not going to do the same polite peaceful things, I mean only a moron would think that way!

We have many elements to this fight. Some have stopped several airlines and ferries just this year from transporting lab animals to prisons. We petition congress to stop giving money. We tell alumni at colleges the same and show them the TRUTH. In California there have been fire bombings on vivisectors and the torture still continues!! Now its time to stop vivisection from getting started. That would mean showing students what will actually be expected of them. It’s wrong. We’re good and right and only showing the truth. We will fight for the animals if this doesn’t work. Seriously, No more “chatting” about a holocaust.

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THERE ARE NOW A BAZILLION ALTERNATIVES AVAILABLE. ANYONE WHO CONTINUES TO TEACH CUTTING UP ON ANIMALS WHEN THIS IS AVAILABLE IS TEACHING FRAUD, WHILE MAIMING, ELECTROCUTING, POISONING AND KILLING INNOCENTS. DUDE HOW CAN YOU BE FRIENDS WITH PEOPLE WHO DO THIS??

Anyone who receives this knowledge and doesn’t change their paths and attitudes is guilty of the same. You’re students and we’ll try to teach you first with real, current information. But I seriously doubt all will listen so we have plans for them too. Dreams and goals and degrees can stay the same. We simply insists that no more animals be used to achieve them as its not necessary. See attached word doc and pics. Any decent young person would join us.

Lisa Grossman
Animal Rights Activist
Negotiation Is Over
The time for civil discourse has expired….

Student

You’re saying I should fear for my friends. And yeah, I understand your point but many of them are years into the major they chose and did not know that it would result in them having to do different sorts of things. Actually one of them refuses to participate in things like dissections. Why should I fear for them, are you guys planning on harming people?”

Lisa

NO WE WILL NOT HARM ANYONE!

We will however expose the truth about animals being tortured in labs for research. Its a sickness based in greed since there are alternatives. And people who do this will be exposed for their addiction. We know even if it all comes to an abrupt halt, greedy people won’t miss a beat in making profit on using the alternatives. Thats why we work to abolish all animal testing immediately- its the fastest way to alternatives being developed and used. So theres no need for us to cause harm- and it’s totally against our world view! We have proof that people who know the truth about how innocent animals are used, they do not accept it on any level. Look at all the south florida businesses and workers who will no longer associate with primate products! No one was harmed for this! The truth was simply shown.

And PS — any students who continue their studies by refusing all dissections and all animal use ARE OUR HEROES!!

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